Ruby Payne, Scholar?
January 17, 2009
As she comes under much more critical scrutinty lately, Ruby Payne keeps digging herself in deeper.
Case in Point: In the January issue of Kappan Mistilina Sato and Tim Lensmire is a very good article critiquing Payne and proposing work that more substantively prepares teachers to understand the lives of poor students. They note, as many others have also done, that Payne’s work is based on many unsubstantiated claims.
Payne responds in the same issue with a more general response to criticism of her book, A Framework for Understanding Poverty. She begins with the tiresome claim that she’s made elsewhere that most people criticizing the book are nontenured assistant “professors of higher education” [sic] as if that addresses any of the detailed concerns raised in critiques of her work published in rigorous academic journals.
But more troublesome are her attempts to justify her work as actually supported by “research”.
In her Kappan article she cites herself as the source for her claim of much higher rates of child abuse among poor children than children “not in poverty”, even though Payne herself has done no research on the demographics of child abuse.
Several paragraphs later, she refers to “peer reviewed” research on her website showing statistically significant achievement differences in schools implementing her approach, an astounding distortion of conventional peer review process. For Education and Class readers who don’t publish in academic journals, “peer review” means that a study has been scrutinized by scholars who do not know the identity of the author, who are charged with assessing whether an author has complied with expected norms of scholarly inquiry, and who critique the study for the extent to which it builds and extends the body of existing research around a given question.
Payne’s “peer review” consists of nothing more than a brief commentary of some of her research methods by some faculty members (no explanation was given for why these men were chosen) who seem to have no background in school achievement studies and who clearly knew the source of the work they were reading.
Payne’s reasearch consists of nothing more than a handful of simple pre-test/post -test studies of single schools. Students in Intro to Research courses learn the pretty serious limitations of interpreting data from studies that presume that the only thing that has affected achievement in complex schools (and their communities) over time is the particular teaching methodology of interest to a particular author.
In spite of how often her supporters contrast Payne with “those academics” who lack credibility because of their distance from classrooms, Payne proudly identifies herself as a Ph.D.
So she should know better.
And so should school districts looking for support for teachers who want to learn more about how how best to teach poor children.
January 27, 2013 at 4:51 pm
I am currently taking a graduate course on teaching children in poverty. Part of my course requirement was to read the text “A Framework for Understanding Poverty” by Ruby Payne. Upon reading the text and answer the required corresponding questions, I didn’t think anything of the text. I thought that it made sense, but I really wasn’t looking that far into it. Another part of my course requirement was to further explore Payne, by researching her online and joining a forum or a blog. Upon typing her name into the search bar, thousands of searches came through. Once I started reading about her, I quickly realized that she is not liked by many. At first I couldn’t understand why, but upon further investigation, it made sense. It is because of the way she stereotypes people who live in poverty, as well as the children who are born into poverty. I’m still not sure where I stand with Payne, I want to read more reviews about her. I will say that her book was well written and was easy to follow and understand, but as far as her as a person and how she portrays people of poverty, my opinion is not yet formed. Thank you.
January 27, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Colby, thanks for commenting. I don’t like or dislike her — I don’t know her at all, and she does seem like a nice person on her videos. I do strongly disagree with her very broad generalizations about kids in poverty, especially when it’s base on so little actual data. She talks a lot about what poor people do and don’t value, so I wonder: What should we infer about the values of someone who has done no revision or elaboration on her work in so many years? If students (whether poor or middle class) just kept repeating the same things over and over and over for years without maturing in their wisdom or knowledge, would we consider that a good thing or a problem?