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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-9/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read over the class checklist and think the idea was wonderful.  Having grown up in poverty (I am white) I can easily point out some differences in social class.  I would also like to say that the people who designed the checklist may not have come from lower social classes and that other items may provide better clarification of what the differences in classes are.

For example:

If your parents never had to work in fast food or other service industry jobs earning minimum wage.

If your family never had to &quot;dumpster dive&quot; to have supper.

If your family owned a car.

If your ever had a CHOICE about wanting to attend college or not.

If you have health insurance and dental insurance. 

If you make more than minimum wage.

If you live in a neighborhood that is NOT beside train tracks, cement factories, main streets, city dumps, strip clubs, high crime areas.  Or if you DON&#039;T live in trailer parks and the &quot;projects&quot;.  Or if you DON&#039;T live in a high crime neighborhood.  Or if you DO live in a gated community.

If you do not HAVE to buy your clothing at thrift stores.  

If you have cash to pay for food instead of relying on food stamps or credit cards or do without.

If you think it is a choice that poor people do not go to college.

If you think it is a choice for people to drive cars that are unreliable or &quot;ugly&quot;.

If you think it is a choice that people have decayed or missing teeth.  

If you think everyone, in America, has what they need and if they don&#039;t they just don&#039;t work hard.

If you don&#039;t have the fear of being homeless.

If you don&#039;t know anyone who is or has been homeless.

If your parents (or you) will ever receive an inheritance (even a modest one).

If your parents have family property. Or if they own property - including a house.

If your parents did not have to work two jobs.

If you were not raised by a single parent.

If your family never had the power turned off or the water turned off because your parents had to decide whether to pay the bills or buy food.

If your parents even knew that college is not only for the wealthy.

If you own a contract cell phone.  (prepaid cell phones that are usually what poor people use are more costly because usually you cannot call people for free, have to pay for even the cheapest quality of phone, and have to buy minutes every few months even when the minutes have not run out).

If you are able to say &quot;I (or my parents) have worked hard for everything we have.  Not thinking about the people in low service industry jobs who work very hard but whose wages are so low that they will NEVER be able to afford more.  Also, not taking into account the college tuition your parents paid for you to attend college and thus not taking on student loan debt, the jobs you got because your parents knew someone, or the family business you took over.

If you don&#039;t have to be ashamed of your home (that you own), your clothes (that you purchase new), your car (instead of having to walk or rely on public transportation - not by choice), etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read over the class checklist and think the idea was wonderful.  Having grown up in poverty (I am white) I can easily point out some differences in social class.  I would also like to say that the people who designed the checklist may not have come from lower social classes and that other items may provide better clarification of what the differences in classes are.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>If your parents never had to work in fast food or other service industry jobs earning minimum wage.</p>
<p>If your family never had to &#8220;dumpster dive&#8221; to have supper.</p>
<p>If your family owned a car.</p>
<p>If your ever had a CHOICE about wanting to attend college or not.</p>
<p>If you have health insurance and dental insurance. </p>
<p>If you make more than minimum wage.</p>
<p>If you live in a neighborhood that is NOT beside train tracks, cement factories, main streets, city dumps, strip clubs, high crime areas.  Or if you DON&#8217;T live in trailer parks and the &#8220;projects&#8221;.  Or if you DON&#8217;T live in a high crime neighborhood.  Or if you DO live in a gated community.</p>
<p>If you do not HAVE to buy your clothing at thrift stores.  </p>
<p>If you have cash to pay for food instead of relying on food stamps or credit cards or do without.</p>
<p>If you think it is a choice that poor people do not go to college.</p>
<p>If you think it is a choice for people to drive cars that are unreliable or &#8220;ugly&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you think it is a choice that people have decayed or missing teeth.  </p>
<p>If you think everyone, in America, has what they need and if they don&#8217;t they just don&#8217;t work hard.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have the fear of being homeless.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know anyone who is or has been homeless.</p>
<p>If your parents (or you) will ever receive an inheritance (even a modest one).</p>
<p>If your parents have family property. Or if they own property &#8211; including a house.</p>
<p>If your parents did not have to work two jobs.</p>
<p>If you were not raised by a single parent.</p>
<p>If your family never had the power turned off or the water turned off because your parents had to decide whether to pay the bills or buy food.</p>
<p>If your parents even knew that college is not only for the wealthy.</p>
<p>If you own a contract cell phone.  (prepaid cell phones that are usually what poor people use are more costly because usually you cannot call people for free, have to pay for even the cheapest quality of phone, and have to buy minutes every few months even when the minutes have not run out).</p>
<p>If you are able to say &#8220;I (or my parents) have worked hard for everything we have.  Not thinking about the people in low service industry jobs who work very hard but whose wages are so low that they will NEVER be able to afford more.  Also, not taking into account the college tuition your parents paid for you to attend college and thus not taking on student loan debt, the jobs you got because your parents knew someone, or the family business you took over.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have to be ashamed of your home (that you own), your clothes (that you purchase new), your car (instead of having to walk or rely on public transportation &#8211; not by choice), etc.</p>
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		<title>By: jacquelinehoman</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-9/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>jacquelinehoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why a largely white middle class male population gets their tighty whiteys in a wad over the mention of &quot;privilege&quot; is because they KNOW they did not win all of life&#039;s social prizes and rewards fair and square. They don&#039;t like being reminded that all they had to do was show up whereas women and other minorities, especially Native Americans, and especially the poor across all racial lines, have to work three times as hard to only get one quarter as far. The truth hurts. Plus it&#039;s sheer greed. The &quot;haves&quot; are too selfish to share or compete on a truly level and fair playing field, plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why a largely white middle class male population gets their tighty whiteys in a wad over the mention of &#8220;privilege&#8221; is because they KNOW they did not win all of life&#8217;s social prizes and rewards fair and square. They don&#8217;t like being reminded that all they had to do was show up whereas women and other minorities, especially Native Americans, and especially the poor across all racial lines, have to work three times as hard to only get one quarter as far. The truth hurts. Plus it&#8217;s sheer greed. The &#8220;haves&#8221; are too selfish to share or compete on a truly level and fair playing field, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Woodbridge</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-9/#comment-849</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Woodbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also did this video in frustration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoQoQVbA20</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also did this video in frustration</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/WgoQoQVbA20/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Woodbridge</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-8/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Woodbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a book looking at class privilege, Polly Toynbee (Unjust Rewards: Exposing Greed and Inequality in Britain Today, 2008) exposed a similar set of misunderstandings among people who are essentially the very high earning middle class. 

The high earners whom she interviewed seemed to be completely naive and ignorant about what class was. They tended to see themselves as a lower class than they actually were. Because you can always buy a bigger boat, many saw themselves as under-privileged.

This naivete, ignorance and refusal to examine, and identify class really makes me quite angry. But thats because the people who write our culture are generally the privileged, with a few notable exceptions.

Yes, you can buy a computer for a few hundred dollars, but that&#039;s not really the point. Its the language of the computer thats the problem, its the language of higher education that makes it less accessible to underprivileged people. No wonder working class folk have a mistrust toward middle class institutions, it&#039;s those institutions that have made them poor.

Class is a question of choice and the ability and agency to enact that choice, As money talks so loudly in our western societies yes that is a factor, but there are other factors, values and beliefs that also need to be taken account of when examining class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a book looking at class privilege, Polly Toynbee (Unjust Rewards: Exposing Greed and Inequality in Britain Today, 2008) exposed a similar set of misunderstandings among people who are essentially the very high earning middle class. </p>
<p>The high earners whom she interviewed seemed to be completely naive and ignorant about what class was. They tended to see themselves as a lower class than they actually were. Because you can always buy a bigger boat, many saw themselves as under-privileged.</p>
<p>This naivete, ignorance and refusal to examine, and identify class really makes me quite angry. But thats because the people who write our culture are generally the privileged, with a few notable exceptions.</p>
<p>Yes, you can buy a computer for a few hundred dollars, but that&#8217;s not really the point. Its the language of the computer thats the problem, its the language of higher education that makes it less accessible to underprivileged people. No wonder working class folk have a mistrust toward middle class institutions, it&#8217;s those institutions that have made them poor.</p>
<p>Class is a question of choice and the ability and agency to enact that choice, As money talks so loudly in our western societies yes that is a factor, but there are other factors, values and beliefs that also need to be taken account of when examining class.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-8/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t part of the point that privelage is not just about money, or not just about how rich you percieve yourself to be?  Me, I&#039;m whack in the middle of that - I would say I answered &#039;yes&#039; to about 50%, almost exactly.  Yet, I can&#039;t deny that I am privelaged.  very much so.  The one that rung for me was &#039;people who dress and talk like me are portrayed positively in the media&#039;  This is not something I have ever had to contemplate - not really.

Also, the POINT of being privelaged is that you probably don&#039;t know that you are - because you don&#039;t have to think about how much the heating bill is, or whether someone you went to school with wore these second hand clothes before you.  So you don&#039;t - can&#039;t! - realise how life-changingly, earth-shatteringly devastating it is to have to think about those things... at any age, but as a child, especially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t part of the point that privelage is not just about money, or not just about how rich you percieve yourself to be?  Me, I&#8217;m whack in the middle of that &#8211; I would say I answered &#8216;yes&#8217; to about 50%, almost exactly.  Yet, I can&#8217;t deny that I am privelaged.  very much so.  The one that rung for me was &#8216;people who dress and talk like me are portrayed positively in the media&#8217;  This is not something I have ever had to contemplate &#8211; not really.</p>
<p>Also, the POINT of being privelaged is that you probably don&#8217;t know that you are &#8211; because you don&#8217;t have to think about how much the heating bill is, or whether someone you went to school with wore these second hand clothes before you.  So you don&#8217;t &#8211; can&#8217;t! &#8211; realise how life-changingly, earth-shatteringly devastating it is to have to think about those things&#8230; at any age, but as a child, especially.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday blogging against racism #42&#8211;privilege meme &#171; I wanna love You better whatever it takes . . .</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday blogging against racism #42&#8211;privilege meme &#171; I wanna love You better whatever it takes . . .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] us dangerously close to the point where we need to admit to our own privilege. So you end up with reactions like this that remind me of the people who protest the (admittedly tongue-in-cheek) characterizations on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] us dangerously close to the point where we need to admit to our own privilege. So you end up with reactions like this that remind me of the people who protest the (admittedly tongue-in-cheek) characterizations on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s explore our privilege at Anti-Racist Parent - for parents committed to raising children with an anti-racist outlook</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-7/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s explore our privilege at Anti-Racist Parent - for parents committed to raising children with an anti-racist outlook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Education and Class for criticism of bloggers&#8217; responses to the Privilege [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Education and Class for criticism of bloggers&#8217; responses to the Privilege [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Middle Class Privilege &#171; Education and Class</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-7/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Middle Class Privilege &#171; Education and Class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] exercise that Will Barratt and his colleagues developed that morphed into that &#8220;privilege meme&#8221; a few months ago was one take on developing a parallel class privilege [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Class, Race, and Privilege &#171; Education and Class</title>
		<link>http://educationandclass.com/2008/01/04/privilege-goes-viral/comment-page-7/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Class, Race, and Privilege &#171; Education and Class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 13, 2008   That Privilege Meme simply will not die, moving now among a number of blogs written by people of color, and generating [...]</description>
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		<title>By: investigativeblog.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-02-11</title>
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		<dc:creator>investigativeblog.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-02-11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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